素食應否吃蛋?

對素食有疑問?身體不適應?歡迎提問。

文章 Vrindavan » 28-07-2006, 19:11 •  [Post 71 樓]

yes, this article is misleading


the writer mix up eggs with dairy products.
the writer should talk about them separately.
and of course his/her opinion is not 地藏經's opinion


Nowadays, people just group them together to blame.
The biggest mistake.
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

文章 lionjimmy » 28-07-2006, 19:32 •  [Post 72 樓]

謝謝Vrin的意見。不過,小弟看不到那裡有誤導,希望Vrin能說出來讓我們分享!
素食學習中
頭像
lionjimmy
超級擁躉
 
文章: 1191
註冊時間: 05-12-2004, 06:40
來自: 香港 - 元朗

Milk and eggs

文章 Vrindavan » 28-07-2006, 20:08 •  [Post 73 樓]

>> 那裡有誤導


it creates the impression that
milk is as bad as eggs in religion viewpoint.
In fact based on religion viewpoint, milk is a very good food and is vegetarian.


we better say milk is bad just because
modern milk industry is bad and modern milk is not healthy.


Eggs are in meat category.
Milk can be consumed by strict vegetarians.
Milk is non-Vegan food.
Vegan = Non-Dairy vegetarian


The meaning of VEGAN is not strict vegetarian,
they are not strict in religion viewpoint. Because they can eat onion and garlic, etc.


VEGAN only means Non-Dairy vegetarian.


There are many reasons and types of vegetarians.
Religious reason is the earliest in term of history.
最後由 Vrindavan 於 18-11-2006, 11:59 編輯,總共編輯了 3 次。
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

Milk Vegetarian Food

文章 Vrindavan » 28-07-2006, 20:16 •  [Post 74 樓]

>> 凡是來源於動物製品的都屬於葷,都不宜食用
>> 食用則難於脫離輪回


this would include human milk too ??


葷 = non vegetarian


"Source from animal" is not equal to non-vegetarian.
源於動物 can also be vegetarian, e.g. milk.
however, not all plants are vegetarian, e.g. 五葷


For buddhist texts,
we also need to see if the statement represents Buddha's opinion or the monks' opinion, or the translator's opinion. Besides, English translation is far better than Old Chinese traslation.


In history, there is mentioning of Buddha drank milk too.
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

文章 lionjimmy » 29-07-2006, 00:39 •  [Post 75 樓]

>> 凡是來源於動物製品的都屬於葷,都不宜食用
>> 食用則難於脫離輪回


this would include human milk too ??


如果我們在戒奶前喝自己母親的奶是正常不過的事。母親也樂意哺育自己的子女吧!

幾十年前還存在的奶媽/乳娘,相對來說也不是太好的,這純粹是看金錢的份上。

很難想像,幾十歲人,還要追著自己母親要奶。
更難接受,鄰居七叔過來找自己的母親、太太或女兒要奶。

退而求其次,要喝奶,人奶不好找,找牛奶代替。如果牛媽有能力反抗,牠會讓人類採牠的奶嗎?




we better say milk is bad just because
modern milk industry is bad and modern milk is not healthy.


Dear Vrin, how could we get the healthy milk?
素食學習中
頭像
lionjimmy
超級擁躉
 
文章: 1191
註冊時間: 05-12-2004, 06:40
來自: 香港 - 元朗

文章 Vrindavan » 29-07-2006, 01:06 •  [Post 76 樓]

>> 如果牛媽有能力反抗,牠會讓人類採牠的奶嗎?


have you heard of surplus milk ?
traditionally, human takes only the surplus portion from cow.


If you have been mother of a baby,
you will understand what is surplus milk


>> how could we get the healthy milk?


cannot now or very very difficult
so i don't buy milk
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

文章 opus » 29-07-2006, 19:31 •  [Post 77 樓]

I cook, and rarely eat out.
I eat what I like~~~anything I like, meat or no meat. I don't eat for other people's opinion or an ideology. ;)
opus
常客
 
文章: 50
註冊時間: 08-06-2006, 10:08

文章 Vrindavan » 29-07-2006, 21:28 •  [Post 78 樓]

faith based vegetarian rely on scriptures or divine knowledge, not human opinions


>> other people's opinion


your own opinion is also an opinion,
you are not free from opinion's influence
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

文章 lionjimmy » 30-07-2006, 16:55 •  [Post 79 樓]

have you heard of surplus milk ?
traditionally, human takes only the surplus portion from cow.


這是觀點與角度的問題。舉個例子:
〝我d錢多到洗-o吾-日西-,你挪去洗!〞及〝你d錢多到洗-o吾-日西-,我幫你洗!〞,是兩回事啊。


很感謝Vrin的寶貴意見。
素食學習中
頭像
lionjimmy
超級擁躉
 
文章: 1191
註冊時間: 05-12-2004, 06:40
來自: 香港 - 元朗

文章 Vrindavan » 30-07-2006, 17:55 •  [Post 80 樓]

>> d錢多到洗-o吾-日西


must be a waste,
in terms of 環保 ,
someone has to use it
頭像
Vrindavan
綠色元老
 
文章: 8581
註冊時間: 17-08-2002, 22:26
來自: Hong Kong

上一頁下一頁

回到 素食問答

誰在線上

正在瀏覽這個版面的使用者:沒有註冊會員 和 2 位訪客